Server Reset: Selling Question

[MrMaggie 0]

Due to the fact that you are reseting the server, it feels as though the innocent people are being punished. For this reason would it be possible for you to expand the selling shop (so that everything can be sold), this would allow us to recuperate at least some of what will be lost in this reset? I think it's only fair.

Please reply. Thanks.

[Lazt 281]

At this time, The shop will remain as is, there was a vote for the server reset, and the server voted in majority for reset so no one is being punished, this was the voice of the server. All users are facing the same situation.

[MrMaggie 0]

@ But surely certain items warrant selling value? Melons? Wheat is sellable? Bread? Crafted from wheat? Cake? I understand what youre saying but giving everyone the opportunity to sell wouldnt make it unfair, if anything it would rebuild the server faster.

I just feel like im losing a lot, and tbh probably wont continue playing if at least some extra items are not added to the sellable items.

Edit: Also the vote for server reset was probably predominatly voted by people who joined, seen the carnage but had never played on the server.

[Lazt 281]

The vote was determined by users who frequent the server, there was active debate for the week the vote was put up and many users during this time argued good points but in the end many came to the decision that reset was the way to go.

I am sorry that you feel upset by this situation but it was something discussed by the community and voted on, users who voted asked and understood what a reset meant. This decision is final as the community was given their chance to vote and voted for reset knowing the terms of reset.

[MrMaggie 0]

Do you at least note the incosistency in the shop?

[Lazt 281]

The prices for the server shop were determined by the staff based on several decisions and discussions. It will not be changed.

[MrMaggie 0]

I mean without some things and have other things

[Lazt 281]

The shop was not intended to sell everything, only select items. Nor was it meant to buy everything.

[MrMaggie 0]

Would melons and wheat not be considered the same? ANd i understand that and agree with you.

[Minime93ireland 12]

While there are things that people on the server want to sell, most of us with issues have discussed it with the moderators to understand the reasoning for including/not including certain items, we didn't just create a post and act like we were being punished. I was part of the vote (I've put in close to, if not, the most play time on this server) and discussion, and I've looked at the votes, and all of the people that voted yes were very frequent users who have much to lose (More people that said no were infrequent users). But we understand the need for this reset and know that it is the best thing for this server and community. We are just as innocent, but we have all put in effort to make sure the best decision was made for this server, and this reset is it. I believe we all are sorry that you feel like you're being punished, but all of us are losing an immense amount of time and effort, not just you. We love this game, and we love the community, so we are willing to give it up and rebuild for the good of the server and community. We hope you don't abandon this server, as we enjoy everyone that comes to the server, but this is part of a popular server, almost every major server has done it.

[MrMaggie 0]

Blehh, didnt wanna get into a big debate. I guess my main question is, why cant melons be sold? I have spent this week making a melon farm, unaware of this reset and it's frustrating.

Apologies and thanks.

[Lazt 281]

Melons is simply not one of the items sold in the shop. It is always important to double check what is in shop if you will dedicate time to harvesting items you think are sold in shop. Server reset is slated for two days from now, and the shop will not be altered in this time.

[Minime93ireland 12]

While melons are a plant, just like wheat and sugarcane (which are sellable), they are directly consumable unlike the others. No directly digestible foods were added to the sell list, so there was no exception made for melons. Once again, we apologize for the inconvenience this has caused you and the betrayal you feel, but unfortunately, the mods do their best to make the decisions and changes that are asked for by the community as a whole (within reason), but this is not something that has been asked for. Also, it would not be feasible or right to shut down the server for an extended period of time, just to add melons to the shop because one player really wants it. Maybe it will be added post-reset, and if not, if you are still with us, you can request it on the forums and hope that others will see it the same way and agree with you and maybe it will be added. But we hope that this reset doesn't cause so much upset that you leave the server and that you will continue to be part of this community, and hopefully post some of your ideas on the forums in the future. Hopefully we can accommodate some of the things you feel are missing in the future.

[MrMaggie 0]

@Minime93ireland nice straight answer good lad! makes sense

[WdnSpoon 0]

Allowing the sale of melons would seriously unbalance the economy of any minecraft game. If you set the price too low, then people who are scrounging for resources to sell will get barely any benefit from it. If you set the price too high, then anyone with enough resources already can easily set up a massive piston farm and have more money than they could ever need.

Good sellable resources would take some kind of work to accumulate. Wheat is good because you can only automate the harvesting, but you still have to replant. Sugar cane can be 100% automated, but the cost of setting up such automation is pretty steep (you'd need one piston per chute, and they take ~11minutes each to mature. Iron sells at $30/per, so to setup a piston near a sugarcane you'd take 30*11 = 330min = 5.5 hours just to make up the cost of the piston.) It's only really worth it to set up such a farm because they're fun to build (they are), or you wanted sugarcane for books before, but have books now so are just selling the extra.

It's too late now, but I think perhaps it would have been nice to let other resources sell that don't have value added, e.g. sandstone for $2, stone bricks for $3 (same as smoothstone), clay bricks for $3 (they're hard to get in bulk.) Planks at 4 for $1, slabs at 8 for $1. Not a tonne of money but enough to give people a bit of compensation when they clean out their building supply chests.

[Lazt 281]

When the vote occurred the users who faced this decision were aware the shop would not be expanded, it was explained on several occasions throughout the voting process that it would not be expanded, and knowing this the members of the community voted in favor of reset. This is why the shop was not expanded, as users knew the outcome of their decision. We apologize for the inconvience you may have felt, but we made sure to clarify and remind users there would be no change to the shop, and over all this has not been an issue.